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Bringing back and old threadWhat to do with all the d heads

Hey everyone,

I was searching around for what to do with heads (We now have 4 55gal drums filled with the stuff) and stumbled upon this thread:

http://adiforums.com/index.php?showtopic=49&page=2&hl=%2Bheads+%2Buse#entry24667

There were many good suggestions, summarized here:


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I love the idea of selling the fireplaces and the fuel!


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love this idea as well. Do you treat the heads with anything before burning them in the fireplace? Or do the heads come straight off the still and into a bottle to burn in this fireplace?


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I always thought hand sanitizer would be cheap to make.


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You could do an all natural thing for the Germ scared people.


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Fire your still?


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Sell it into the bunker fuel market. Make money off it.

Cheers,

McKee


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John, Do you have any contacts in the bunker fuel market that you could connect me with? Also how much heads are you selling to them at one time? Im sitting on 600 gallons of heads and would love to offload it


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Hey,

I used to deal with one in the Midwest by the name of CP Recycling http://www.cprecycl.com/bio.htm. Charlie Wessels. They specialized in taking offspec (wet) methanol from biodiesel facilities.

You may also want to call your local Waste Management https://www.wm.com/enterprise/manufacturing-and-industrial/index.jspoutlet. I often hear of them buying smaller outfits like CP Recycling and offering those services too.

But based upon your geographic locale, you just want to do some basic Google searches on "bunker fuel supplier", "bunker fuel broker", etc. Especially in areas with large ports. They'll just mix the heads into the bunker fuel that they sell to the large ships for fueling their engines.

All in, go into the conversation with the mindset of your heads are worth something, not a "waste product". The btu value of heads is enormous and especially in bunker fuel, give a quick "octane/cetane/??tane" boost to what is nominally low quality fuel.

Cheers,

McKee


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great! thanks john


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love this idea as well. Do you treat the heads with anything before burning them in the fireplace? Or do the heads come straight off the still and into a bottle to burn in this fireplace?


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Hey,

I used to deal with one in the Midwest by the name of CP Recycling http://www.cprecycl.com/bio.htm. Charlie Wessels. They specialized in taking offspec (wet) methanol from biodiesel facilities.

You may also want to call your local Waste Management https://www.wm.com/enterprise/manufacturing-and-industrial/index.jspoutlet. I often hear of them buying smaller outfits like CP Recycling and offering those services too.

But based upon your geographic locale, you just want to do some basic Google searches on "bunker fuel supplier", "bunker fuel broker", etc. Especially in areas with large ports. They'll just mix the heads into the bunker fuel that they sell to the large ships for fueling their engines.

All in, go into the conversation with the mindset of your heads are worth something, not a "waste product". The btu value of heads is enormous and especially in bunker fuel, give a quick "octane/cetane/??tane" boost to what is nominally low quality fuel.

Cheers,

McKee


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We just burn the heads in the ethanol fireplace. I don't think my brother (head distiller) does anything else.


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HAH!  I was just searching for "broker" threads and this popped up.  I first read the headline as "What to do with all the dickheads!?"  HAH!

I guess that's appropriate for some "brokers".


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So, I spoke with a recycler this morning and was told that (here in California) we need to register with the California Environmental Protection Agency and get a Toxic Substances Control’s identification number.  Has anyone done this, or looked into it?  Are there any concerns with doing this?  I don't want to open a can of worms if that's where this could lead, especially if one of the above alternatives makes more sense. 

Thanks! 


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I am now burning my heads under my still. 

I have a dual nozzle waste oil burner running on waste fryer oil. There is a 2 way valve on one of the nozzles. When there are heads to burn I switch one of the nozzles to the heads tank. Heads are from an alembic pot still and are in mid 70%abv. The flame can be a little erratic if burning heads only but with the other nozzle on waste oil it runs very well.


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We've been recycling in the ferment with good results so far. The cuts grew over a few batches by a total of 20%, but stabilized there. We're actually more likely to see fewer heads out than we put in and have been slowly working through the barrels of heads we put away before trying this. Yields are up, with some losses vs 100% conversion of heads to good spirit.


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We are a brewery and distillery. We use our fores/heads as sanitizer.


Reply:4 hours ago, Liquid Riot said:
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I've mostly used it as in spray bottles but I'm guessing it would work fine in the CIP during sanitary, wouldn't it? (to RBD and Liquid Riot)


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Liquid Yule log 

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Reply:On 12/15/2017 at 1:13 PM, nabtastic said:
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Mixed with heating oil and burned in the boiler.


Reply:3 hours ago, Silk City Distillers said:
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Please take this suggestion with caution.

I put some of my heads in a  garden sprayer, one with an air pump on the top.

I can then spray this into the flame of one of my waste oil burners.

One caution here is if the nozzle gets very hot the plastic parts could melt.

As mentioned in an above post the burner under my still has dual nozzles so I can run one with oil and the other heads.

I have tried mixing heads with waste veg oil, it will blend quite nicely but eventually splits out again. Have tried various types of detergents but haven't managed to form a permanent emulsion.